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Tuesday, April 30, 2013

What Gosnell did is what abortion is

Michael Egnor: What Gosnell did is what abortion is -- Exactly. Warning: Graphic -- yet, mild in context -- images
Posted by Ilíon at 4/30/2013 12:08:00 PM
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May 2, 2013 at 12:27 AM
Ilíon said...

I was more heart-sick than disgusted. All I could/can think is, "My God, my God: that poor little baby!"

"Yes, it is reality, but so is rape and I don't want to see pictures of that either!"

There aren't people going around asserting -- and nearly everyone else pretending to believe it -- that "[Rape] is simply a routine [sexual] procedure!" and that "[Rape] is a [man's] Constitutional Right To Choose!"

May 2, 2013 at 12:44 PM
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May 2, 2013 at 11:20 PM
Ilíon said...

Well, sure. But vast numbers of people, perhaps even a majority, *do* need to see such pictures before they will stop telling themselves the comfortable lies.

May 3, 2013 at 7:23 AM
Joan of Argghh! said...

I don't like to see gratuitous gore, but in a matter of justice denied to so many--- denied by a storm of lies and distortions-- I seat myself among the jurors to see what they must needs see. You may think you don't need to see it, but you do. You just do. Not to make you feel revulsion, but to remind you of the cost of ignorance. Perhaps if they were worn, tattered photos of piles of dead Jews from another era we could tut-tut and say "never again!" But they are visceral and real and NOW and UGLY and the world WON'T be nice and clean for ANYone very much longer. Look, that you may look to the end of our ways.

May 4, 2013 at 8:48 PM
Ilíon said...

"I don't like to see gratuitous gore, but in a matter of justice denied to so many--- denied by a storm of lies and distortions-- I seat myself among the jurors to see what they must needs see."

But, this isn't "gratuitous gore".

Further, it is precisely the charge of "gratuitous gore", and especially the fear of the charge, that explains how it is that our entire nation has been able to so successfully lie to itself decade after bloody decade.

May 5, 2013 at 5:06 AM
Joan of Argghh! said...

I obviously did a poor job of making my point. I did not mean for it to be understood that I think seeing the results of real violence is gratuitous, but that it seemed others posting here were unwittingly defining them that way. I believe the rest of my comment supports your view in every way.

May 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM
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May 5, 2013 at 11:10 AM
Ilíon said...

The "jurors" are the public at large. The reason there is still legalized abortion in this country is because (nearly) everyone is lying to themselves about what it is and what it does. And one of the main reasons they are able to pull off the self-deception is because they haven't seen what it is and what it does.

*Every* time some "disrespectable" bit-player anti-abortionist has tried to show the pictures os what ios actually involved, the pro-abortionists -- even to use that correct and neutral term is ruled out of bounds -- shreik about how "repugnant" it is for them to do so. And the "respectable" anti-abortionist establishment go along with that, and join in piling on the "disrespectable" guy. ANd the general public learns, "There is something disreputable about opposing "a woman's right to choose"".

May 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM
Ilíon said...

"I obviously did a poor job of making my point."

I understood what you meant. I was expanding on it. I probably ought to have said "And, this isn't ...", rather than "But, this isn't ..."

May 5, 2013 at 12:22 PM
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May 11, 2013 at 12:55 PM

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