tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post7078020390687473838..comments2024-02-21T10:13:00.928-05:00Comments on Iliocentrism: Now, he's just incoherentIlíonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-81637473282373748472011-09-08T23:13:28.722-04:002011-09-08T23:13:28.722-04:00Curiously, the argument given by Peter Lupu that G...Curiously, the argument given by Peter Lupu that God wants humans to show moral autonomy by disobeying him is identical to the argument that Satan gives in Perelandra.<br /><br />"he Genesis story recounts not the Fall of man, but his rise or ascent from a pre-human condition of animal innocence to the status of a moral being possessing the knowledge of good and evil. This makes sense if ifGyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09941686166886986037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-21094015533027582262011-09-06T12:36:55.104-04:002011-09-06T12:36:55.104-04:00Yep; all peoples, in all times, have believed that...Yep; all peoples, in all times, have believed that there is something fundamentally wrong or broken about human beings -- that in some way, and for some reason/cause, we do not measure up to what we *ought* to be. And, of course, this belief/intuition does not make sense under a philosophy of naturalism or atheism; it can make sense only if there is a transcendant "oughtness" about Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-64862406149287856142011-09-05T23:18:12.836-04:002011-09-05T23:18:12.836-04:00That man is imperfect to himself is an empirical f...That man is imperfect to himself is an empirical fact. From this fact, it was evident to Chesterton that we are fallen beings and thus Original Sin. <br /><br />However, the evolutionists of 19C believed that we are imperfect but rising beings.<br />In 20C, they have lost the concept of perfection. Now evolution just meanders. <br /><br />There are other possible views, though none with the Gyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09941686166886986037noreply@blogger.com