tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post5232237010403331260..comments2024-02-21T10:13:00.928-05:00Comments on Iliocentrism: Error ... and AgencyIlíonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-47188598493440381542023-09-18T03:45:05.555-04:002023-09-18T03:45:05.555-04:00I do so enjoy and appreciate how you present your ...I do so enjoy and appreciate how you present your arguments, your writing makes me feel as if I'm walking in the foothills of a mountain range rather than try to forge forward waist deep in a bog or swamp and for that I'd like to thank you. <br /><br />Your position on Pascal's Wager is for me spot on as I've seen many people, perhaps too many people, who have played the part of Richard Daniellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09262069363472719184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-64266848902595518922023-09-18T01:22:04.324-04:002023-09-18T01:22:04.324-04:00"Now I would like to ask you this on the thei..."<i>Now I would like to ask you this on the theist/atheist point, has the man engaged in Pascal's wager maintained his agency or handed it off to a 'carrot v. stick' master?</i>"<br /><br />Is it really possible to <i>utterly</i> destroy one's agency? Certainly, one can <i>enslave</i> one's agency to the will of another agent, or even to non-agents such as habits Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-28765711652580733762023-09-18T00:54:02.150-04:002023-09-18T00:54:02.150-04:00==... or did I make an error in understanding your...==... or did I make an error in understanding your writing.==<br /><br />Probably not. It this OP, I only <i>alluded</i> to the fuller argument, as now fleshed out above. This is partly because Kristor and I have discussed it previously, and partly because I have other posts fleshing it out. One such post is called "You Cannot Reason".Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-90782514829315454262023-09-18T00:46:08.511-04:002023-09-18T00:46:08.511-04:00"I failed to see how that proves the Divine.&..."<i>I failed to see how that proves the Divine.</i>"<br /><br />There are two, <i>and only two</i> metaphysical (and really, physical) possibilities about the nature of reality --<br />1) The Cosmos is (or at least was) <i>created with intent</i> -- that is, "mere theism" is the truth about the nature of reality;<br />2) The universe <i>happened/came-to-be without intent</i> -Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-89230696378838627622023-09-17T19:55:27.230-04:002023-09-17T19:55:27.230-04:00This was quite the read, a point made by you witho...This was quite the read, a point made by you without error for me. I do agree that by understanding that one has made an error and if one so chooses making an attempt to correct said error does show both cognition and agency I failed to see how that proves the Divine; or did I make an error in understanding your writing. <br /><br />When some people make an error they will make a second to Richard Daniellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09262069363472719184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-34149970822532731792022-11-20T21:15:05.489-05:002022-11-20T21:15:05.489-05:00Kristor made part of our exchange into a post at T...Kristor made part of our exchange into a post at The Orthosphere. If you wish to follow the ensuing discussion, it is here -- https://orthosphere.wordpress.com/2022/11/17/an-argument-from-our-agency/Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.com