tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post2932126615235002614..comments2024-03-28T13:10:44.555-04:00Comments on Iliocentrism: You Cannot ReasonIlíonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-90853847551313254792011-09-20T21:29:13.583-04:002011-09-20T21:29:13.583-04:00I have written a response, should you care to exam...I have <a href="http://lifetheuniverseandonebrow.blogspot.com/2011/09/on-intellectual-honesty-of-atheism.html" rel="nofollow">written a response</a>, should you care to examine it.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-61883391976075955792011-08-21T09:57:32.629-04:002011-08-21T09:57:32.629-04:00I haven't read your post yet ... for some reas...I haven't read your post yet ... for some reason, I decided to first skim through the comments it has garnered. Oh, my! Those poor, unreasoning souls! ... how embarrassing it must be to be unable to follow a simple argument. Why, one of your commentators has even asserted that I didn’t even offer an argument, but that I made only an assertion.<br /><br />==<br />Regardless (of some) of your Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-45797192464732639042011-08-21T09:37:50.404-04:002011-08-21T09:37:50.404-04:00Thanks for the link; I'll give it a read.Thanks for the link; I'll give it a read.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-32337842184684408962011-08-21T07:10:58.475-04:002011-08-21T07:10:58.475-04:00A third attempt at a live link to my promised thr...A third attempt at a live link <a href="http://theskepticalzone.com/wp/?p=129#more-129" rel="nofollow"> to my promised thread</a>Elizabeth Liddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02465414316063910821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-929729033473526792011-08-21T07:08:10.935-04:002011-08-21T07:08:10.935-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Elizabeth Liddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02465414316063910821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-58348333934864573552010-07-11T07:16:19.479-04:002010-07-11T07:16:19.479-04:00Mr Boyden,
I don't think *your* refusal to rea...Mr Boyden,<br />I don't think *your* refusal to reason properly, or to admit a logical consequence, is going to help anyone find the assertedly fatal flaw in this argument.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-31991870935083331982010-07-10T23:12:45.216-04:002010-07-10T23:12:45.216-04:00This seems to be the mistake: "That is, it i...This seems to be the mistake: "That is, it is not the content of, and logical relationship between, two thoughts which prompts a reasoning entity to move from the one thought to the other, but rather it is some change-of-state of some matter which determines that an entity "thinks" any particular "thought" when it does."<br /><br />The statement between the "Protagorashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12645042531440559735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-84023284866032785442010-02-14T16:20:53.556-05:002010-02-14T16:20:53.556-05:00The 'Agent Intellect' blog has a collectio...The '<i>Agent Intellect</i>' blog has a collection of <a href="http://agentintellect.blogspot.com/2008/04/some-shorter-statements-of-afr.html" rel="nofollow">shorter statements of C.S.Lewis' argument from reason</a>. I'd read most of these at one time or another; and Lewis' thought (along with that of others, such as Plantinga) was influential to the genesis of this argument.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-39512428343274542512010-01-10T19:35:19.838-05:002010-01-10T19:35:19.838-05:00"Hope you don't mind an interloper commen..."<i>Hope you don't mind an interloper commenting. I got here from from JCW's livejournal.</i>"<br /><br />Not at all; welcome.<br /><br /><br />"<i>I think that you are conflating atheism with naturalism. ...</i>"<br /><br />Not at all. <br /><br /><br />"<i>... but atheism does not require naturalism.</i>"<br /><br />Naturalism and atheism are like two sidesIlíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-34478911777268629072010-01-10T18:59:24.512-05:002010-01-10T18:59:24.512-05:00Hope you don't mind an interloper commenting. ...Hope you don't mind an interloper commenting. I got here from from JCW's livejournal.<br /><br />I think that you are conflating atheism with naturalism. Naturalism does have the consequences that you describe, and as a practical matter almost all atheists are naturalists, but atheism does not require naturalism.<br /><br />One could consistently be an atheist and a Cartesian dualist, forDoc Rampagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16219747495711517489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-35102349617681956922010-01-05T00:41:54.654-05:002010-01-05T00:41:54.654-05:00"That is, it is not the content of, and logic...<i>"That is, it is not the content of, and logical relationship between, two thoughts which prompts a reasoning entity to move from the one thought to the other, but rather [under atheism] it is some change-of-state of some matter which determines that an entity "thinks" any particular "thought" when it does."</i><br /><br />Well that explains the 99.9% of the kh123https://www.blogger.com/profile/15230935976084971917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-21233042766745807012010-01-04T16:16:02.824-05:002010-01-04T16:16:02.824-05:00Yes, I acknowledged that it was his blog, and he i...Yes, I acknowledged that it was his blog, and he is entitled to do as he pleased.<br /><br />I even recommended deleting the comments. I would have emailed him or private messaged him, but couldnt find a path to do so.<br /><br />I just wanted to make my point.<br /><br />Zenster, got all in a huff. <br /><br />Frankly, Ive had enough of Atheists. They are welcome to oppose the Islamics, but EscapeVelocityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04321500891200437659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-91526044378228019712010-01-04T02:51:04.169-05:002010-01-04T02:51:04.169-05:00EV,
I haven't closely read your posts on GoV ...EV, <br />I haven't closely read your posts on GoV which the Baron deleted, and your subsequent exchange with him about it (though, I did copy the content of all the posts to my computer so that I might read them at some time if I choose to do so), but from the quick skim I did make, I believe that the Baron acted unjustly and inconsistently (in just the way you pointed out to him). <br /><Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-60019640508236086142010-01-04T02:15:30.468-05:002010-01-04T02:15:30.468-05:00Zenster, if you would like to continue our discuss...Zenster, if you would like to continue our discussion, maybe Ilio will be so kind as to let us have it here.<br /><br />Otherwise, VersusVs forum is a new site, that we may do so.<br /><br /><br />I didnt feel it necessary to respond to your post, as you made your point. My point was that my post didnt require modding, and was a case of PC enforcement. Criticize Islam and Muslims, but not EscapeVelocityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04321500891200437659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-85257554758902465982010-01-03T19:32:28.119-05:002010-01-03T19:32:28.119-05:00Indeed.
There are Atheists that keep their belief...Indeed.<br /><br />There are Atheists that keep their beliefs private and to themselves and let others be. Perhaps they realize the tenuousness of their belief, the shakey ground upon which it rests. These folks are pleasant, and do not feel the need to promote their belief in one less God than I do, and form social organizations and bonds around their beliefs. However that does not constitute EscapeVelocityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04321500891200437659noreply@blogger.com