tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post2577968334542811735..comments2024-02-21T10:13:00.928-05:00Comments on Iliocentrism: Why mental states are not physical statesIlíonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-65502388000540678762015-02-19T01:28:46.161-05:002015-02-19T01:28:46.161-05:00I've had similar thoughts, but as was pointed ...I've had similar thoughts, but as was pointed out the materialist will wave his hand and explain mental events through emergence of a purely physical system. Yes it's ad hoc, but not illogical per se.<br /><br />However, emergence doesn't save him. What is self-defeating is that the materialist must use mental events to explain his materialist worldview, and can only cast aside Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15940563034797865033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-57858589963992635762015-02-08T15:52:47.582-05:002015-02-08T15:52:47.582-05:00While 'I-pretend-at-rationality' may be pl...While 'I-pretend-at-rationality' may be playing a role (that is, he may be trolling), he's not a troll-bot: no program can <i>simulate</i> agency that well.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-37587024180560566532015-02-08T15:10:41.466-05:002015-02-08T15:10:41.466-05:00"I also didn't have to verify that I was ..."<i>I also didn't have to verify that I was a human</i>"<br /><br />Over on DI, I'm beginning to believe that Skep is actually some programmer's idea of a monstrous joke. Probably laughing his head off over everyone vainly attempting to hold a conversation with his robotic poster.B. Prokophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10548980245078214688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-11435392085395923472015-02-08T15:08:00.459-05:002015-02-08T15:08:00.459-05:00Ilion,
Ypou can find the context for the quote HE...Ilion,<br /><br />Ypou can find the context for the quote <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/9057/pg9057.html" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. Just use the "Find" function to go to the passage. It's in the sermon entitled <i>Life</i>.<br /><br />(By the way, the entire book is well worth reading. It's (obviously) free on line, or you can get it hardcopy from Amazon for only aB. Prokophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10548980245078214688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-31016801699521502732015-02-08T13:42:17.534-05:002015-02-08T13:42:17.534-05:00B.Prokop: "Your posting reminds me of the Geo...<b>B.Prokop:</b> "<i>Your posting reminds me of the George MacDonald passage from Unspoken Sermons I just quoted over on Victor's site:</i>"<br /><br />I saw it soon after you posted it there, and I'm not sure I fully understand what he's getting at.<br /><br />Nonetheless, to the extent I think I do understand him (and you) -- <br /><br />Why do you think I'm forever Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-929304765970818352015-02-08T13:29:16.789-05:002015-02-08T13:29:16.789-05:00Shackleman, I've added my response to your que...Shackleman, I've added my response to your question as an edit to the OP.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-59994753385174690582015-02-08T13:03:41.696-05:002015-02-08T13:03:41.696-05:00Well, shoot! The 4096 character limit didn't u...Well, shoot! The 4096 character limit didn't used to apply to me in commenting on my own blog (I also didn't have to verify that I was a human)Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-1858356240823247882015-02-06T18:17:58.883-05:002015-02-06T18:17:58.883-05:00Your posting reminds me of the George MacDonald pa...Your posting reminds me of the George MacDonald passage from <i>Unspoken Sermons</i> I just quoted over on Victor's site:<br /><br />"I have been speaking as if life and the consciousness of it were one; but the consciousness of life is not life; it is only the outcome of life. The Real Life is that which <b>is</b> of and by itself - is life because it wills itself - which <b>is</b>, in B. Prokophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10548980245078214688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-2203487537288395322015-02-06T18:16:23.474-05:002015-02-06T18:16:23.474-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.B. Prokophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10548980245078214688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-66480953019760719962015-02-06T17:12:14.766-05:002015-02-06T17:12:14.766-05:00Thanks for your response. I'll try to compose...Thanks for your response. I'll try to compose an answer (and polish the OP) when I get home this weekend.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-479830240587990195.post-88232879508653640252015-02-06T16:41:55.889-05:002015-02-06T16:41:55.889-05:00"When God-deniers deny the reality of God -- ..."When God-deniers deny the reality of God -- deny that God, a Person, an Agent, is *the* fundamental reality -- then they are denying that it is even possible for there to be *any* agents and *any* persons."<br /><br />-While I agree, and the meat of your post is truly excellent (and anyone who truly attends to this post in opposition to it *ought* to be quite challenged by the thrust Shacklemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03729019284713840826noreply@blogger.com